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trien27 -

sozzen:
Simple: 滿 (Manchu) was regarded as 蠻 (barbarian). Manchus 滿 were a barbarian[non-Chinese]
tribe who controlled China[1644-1911]. 蠻 = braids used by Mongolian rulers or other tribes who
dress their hair in a similar fashion? Since it wasn't the traditional Chinese men's hairstyle,
it's considered barbaric. People probably got them confused with one another due to similarities
in pronunciation in Mandarin.



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skylee -



Quote:

蠻 = braids used by Mongolian rulers or other tribes who dress their hair in a similar fashion

Could you tell me the origin of this explanation. I am not sure if 蠻 has this meaning.

Or perhaps you have mixed it up with 辮?










CG wang -

I think we can use both the two words when we want to express " very". But in the other situation,
they are very different. 蠻 always means crude. and 滿 always means full.










mokushiroku -

I have a book that discusses common errors in character usage. This book also deals with the 蠻
vs 滿 enigma, and concludes in accordance with the information Skylee found: 满 is the correct
character to use for phrases like 她满可愛的. However, I still have a problem with this, and
hence registered this account:

If 满 truly is the correct character in this case, why does everyone (I live in Taiwan) seem to
pronounce it second tone and not third?










skylee -

Who is the author of that book?

I tend to agree with your observation (I live in HK but have watched a lot of Taiwan TV). I think
when people speak what they say or what is in their mind is actually 蠻. But because of the
dictionary explanation such as that in #3, when they write they turn it into 滿. hmm ...
精神分裂. 可憐嘞.

BTW, the quote in my #3 is from the 國語辭典 of the Taiwan Education Department. And it says
滿 is "more appropriate", not "correct".












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