Wednesday, November 12, 2008

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imron -

Following a link about English experts from this post, I came across a Youtube video of a guy
speaking "fake" languages. Basically he recorded himself speaking a bunch of gibberish based on
how he perceived other languages to sound, with the hope that he could encourage non-native
English speakers to do the same back. Quite an interesting little experiment.



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Senzhi -

Actually, the "Sims" series of games produced by Electronic Arts uses also a "fake" gibberish
language. Feedback on those games is that players actually do understand what is being said due to
non-verbal communication as well as intonation.

Interesting indeed, if we consider the origin of languages. Somewhere somehow in history we all
must have started "barking" when we wanted something.

Now we just do it when we don't want something.










imron -

Another one of the same guy speaking with himself in fake german and fake arabic.










DrZero -

I think he's had some exposure to those languages ... or at least to samples for quite a while
online before doing this video. Him imitation of the Chinese sounds is so close.










imron -

Perhaps, but I think an important part of being able to do this is not being able to understand
the languages you're imitating, otherwise it becomes difficult to do.










aliah -

Maybe your right. Myriam. A little bit of new learning.










atitarev -

I watched "Minority Report" and was disgusted by fake Russian, which didn't sound like anything
Russian - the subtitle said "speaking in Russian", though, the Russians in the movie were also
disgusting like in many Hollywood movies. Otherwise the movie is not bad.

Sorry, Imron, I don't like fake languages, they don't sound well to the speakers of the real
languages, although it may take some skills and efforts. In the student years I was able to
imitate quite a few languages and other people could tell, which ones they were but I am not
enjoying this exercise any more - prefer the real thing










imron -

Just out of curiosity, do you think you'd still be able to do a fake English?










atitarev -

I think I can both Russian and English but I am a bit out of practice

Don't get me wrong - it's OK to do it socially but if, in some movies they show it as a real thing.

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You can get not only fake speech but fake writing - like they show Russian army planes, rockets
with gibberish in Cyrillic.

I was amused and annoyed by the writings inside the Russian probe in "Red Planet".

It's not that hard to find a native speaker/translator for a multi-million movie, isn't it both
for speaking and writing.










Lu -



Quote:

I watched "Minority Report" and was disgusted by fake Russian, which didn't sound like anything
Russian - the subtitle said "speaking in Russian", though, the Russians in the movie were also
disgusting like in many Hollywood movies.

I recently saw a bit of Saving Private Ryan. There is a part when they get to a destroyed city,
and there's a family sitting in a building with the front broken off. Now, this entire story takes
place in France, as anyone with some knowledge of WOII history, let alone an ear for languages,
would know. But not the subtitler. Every time the family in the broken house said something, the
subtitles said (德文), and I was sitting there yelling at the tv: this isn't friggin' Dewen,
it's Fawen, can't you hear?! Where do you think they landed?! On a German beach?












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