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Meng Lin Hai -

Nǐ hǎo! This is a really good program, really professional - may I ask, which programming
language did you do it in?

Thanks,
Caspian Merlin (孟林海)



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reanima -

i downloaded and installed pinyinput. how can i use it now?










imron -

@Meng Lin Hai, it was written in C++.

@reanima, to get it working, have a look at the first post in this thread, which has screenshots
on how to activate Pinyinput.










Meng Lin Hai -

Ok thanks - I know C#!










linsook -

wondering if it was possible to just integrate the pinyin ui into the existing xp language bar.










simonlaing -

Yes I would like to agree that it Brilliant.

I wanted to ask, since you have programming skills if you could write a better character to pinyin
parser. I know there are already other tools .
But these usually either put the pinyin text right after the character disrupting the flow or
delete the characters completely.

If you could parse it and format it so any character text file imputed would result in a top line
of pinyin and under it the corresponding characters.
You would need to do something with formatting as ping can be 2 to 4 letters and characters are
always single characters.

Since you are the master this could be cool. Pop ups like rikai.com are good to but this might be
nice as you could print it out and read it on the go and would have the pinyin if you get stuck on
a character.

thanks,
Good job,
Simon










imron -

@linsook, it's always possible, however I'm unlikely to have the time do this anytime soon. I'll
keep it in mind for future updates though.

@simonlaing, Personally, I think that writing the pinyin above the word is a good way to never
actually learn the word, because it gives you a crutch that stops you from spending that extra
time to learn the word properly. Combine this with all the difficulties involved in doing accurate
character-pinyin conversion plus the above-mentioned lack of time, and it's unlikely that I'll
produce such a tool. Maybe someone else reading this will take you up on the idea though.










renzhe -

The biggest problem with something like that is anyway not the programming, but the lookup tables
needed to match different character combinations to different pinyin/tones.

you need a very good dictionary from the start.










simonlaing -

Oh yes, I forgot how many characters have 2 correct pinyin translations depending on what other
characters it is pair with.

Still it's an idea, I have been suprised how many computer scientists or engineers have also
undertaken the study of Chinese. Talk about choosing to very different time consuming subjects
that have almost no cross over.
This tool is still pretty cool. Good job Imron.

Do you think if I gave an incentive to do it like 500 or 1,000 yuan, would people be more
interested in doing it?

Anyway,
have fun,
Simon










roddy -

If you're looking for anything like that, you might want to submit a request to Adsotrans. They've
got the huge database of words, rather than characters, mapped to pinyin which you would need to
do it. Once you've got that, the actual formatting it should be fairly simple. Apologies to
Adsotrans for creating potential work .












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